If it’s noteworthy that he did this, it must be rare. So this tells us most don’t.

So you’re saying humans shouldn’t be the masters of animals? Maybe you’re not such a fascist collaborator after all

Humans are a species of animal. You just think the human race is a master race.

Treating one particular animal the way the other animals are treated was the whole thing wrong with the holocaust.

When it comes to animals, they are. Like you said, they have no ideology, no convictions. A communist like drag believes in workers rights. Animals are being forced to work for capitalists, and they deserve rights. But you don’t. When it comes to animals, you’re not a communist, progressive, or anything. You’re just complicit with all of capitalism’s exploitation. Just a fascist collaborator, going along with a system in which the human race is supreme and all other races exist to be exploited and killed.

You’re the one who tried to racialise meat eating as if big macs are an indigenous custom. It’s nice to see the backpedaling, but next time please don’t try to use inuit culture as a prop to win an argument.

Okay, well that opens up a whole new area of words to describe carnists. You could call yourselves centrists, or moderates, or apoliticals, or nihilists. All good words to describe having no ideology other than conforming to society’s norms.

No, it’s just less common to see in the anglosphere so drag didn’t think it’s a problem worth bringing up right now. Drag gets that you want to make an “all lives matter” kind of point, but you have to consider statistics. Selfish white people control our entire society and are the biggest threat to safety and liberty.

That’s not actually an identifier, it’s just the negation of one. It’s reductive and incorrect. It would be like if we called straight people nongay or atheists nonchristian. Of course, all three erase the grey area in between: vegetarians, bisexuals/asexuals, and any other religion, respectively.

Can’t you think of a word to describe yourself? What is the ideology of carnists in your own words? What unites you, sets you apart from others, and sounds snappy? We’ll just have to call you carnists until you fix your branding problem.

Yeah, white people who aren’t selfish don’t eat meat or drive cars. Drag likes unselfish white people.

Drag thinks tribal societies tended to do the best they could, just like modern vegans. Selfish white people who drive cars everywhere and eat factory farmed meat are not doing the best they could, so drag would rank them as less ethical than vegans and most indigenous peoples.

Well they didn’t have selfish white people to eat until recently, so for them it couldn’t be helped.

Drag will be fine, drag’ll just resort to eating carnists

Maybe if they believed trans people when we tell them our pronouns, they wouldn’t get banned. It seems like this is a problem with a really easy solution.

Why didn’t carnists come up with their own term for themselves? Vegans made up a name for themselves. If carnists come up with a term for carnists and market it, vegans will probably use it.

We have the potential to be. Our big brains let us make ethical choices. Vegans are better than animals, yeah. But you’re not. Because you don’t use your big brain to make ethical choices. Your choices are what define your goodness, and you don’t seem to believe you have a choice.

Drag believes you that animals eat meat, but that’s not a good reason for humans to eat meat. That would be an appeal to nature fallacy. Dingos eat babies, but humans shouldn’t.

Are you trans? Because a lot of other trans people here “believe it”, and if you’re not trans, then acting like you know better than the trans community is a dangerous amount of hubris.

No, drag’s implying people don’t have to do something just because it’s natural. Dying of dysentery is natural, but we try to avoid that. That’s why your argument that we should eat meat because it’s natural is silly

If drag were a troll, you would be an unwitting collaborator, because drag would have tricked you into being transphobic and hating neopronouns. But drag’s not a troll, and you’re unfairly blaming drag for your hatred what’s different. Drag didn’t manipulate you into not wanting to learn about trans issues and do better by trans people, you manipulated yourself and convinced yourself that drag was to blame.