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I think that in an ideal society, everyone would follow their own moral values and laws wouldn’t even be needed. That’s probably not achievable, but we can at least try to approach it.
I think the root of immorality is the prescriptive morality which is commonplace today. People only act pseudo-moral because either:
- They are afraid of punishment (fully selfish reason)
- God, the law, or whoever else said so (deferral to authority)
- “Society would collapse” if they didn’t (still a selfish justification)
in reality, very few actually have internal moral values. As soon as those reasons disappear, they see no reason not to act immorally. Alternatively, they follow this imposed morality so strictly, that they don’t notice when it leads them to immoral actions (take for example religious fundamentalism or fascist regimes).
The solution is of course education, but our current education systems are terribly suited to producing moral people.
It wasn’t really meant to be, my opinion is that following the law for its own sake is a form of slave morality and a betrayal of one’s own moral principles, but I guess the meme is vague enough to be interpreted any which way.
git push origin maindoesn’t have the same ring to it asgit push origin master
crt0o@discuss.tchncs.deto
Arch Linux@lemmy.ml•Did the kernel get a lot bigger recently?
3·2 months agoAlso, you can try switching to xz compression, it will reduce the image sizes by a decent amount
Any organic material will combust at 3300C given enough time
crt0o@discuss.tchncs.deto
Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world•What background music pairs well with watching True Crime stuff?
2·4 months agoI imagine In a Silent Way would be incredible in a crime drama, for example over a murder scene, with all the other sound cut out and just that playing (more like “foreground music”, if that’s a thing)
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No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•If suffering is good because it gives life meaning, wouldn't it follow that hurting people is good?
31·4 months agoHow does suffering give life meaning? Sure, a balance/contrast between pleasure and suffering can help create meaningful experiences, but that’s a different case
I view dirty vocals as an aesthetic choice rather than emotional, they pair better with distorted guitar tones, and with metal, the focus is more on rhythm than melody anyways, so a more percussive vocal style makes sense.
Edit: + I kind of like the fact you usually can’t understand the lyrics straight up, because it’s easier to ignore them if they’re bad and just enjoy the instrumentals, and if they’re good, you can still follow just fine once you know them
Eugenics would be doing this because you believe drug users have “inferior” genetics which shouldn’t be allowed to propagate through the population, but this clearly isn’t how the joke is meant. You get to have children once you’re off the meth, thank you.
Because meth heads make such responsible parents and are usually in a great position to have children
crt0o@discuss.tchncs.deOPto
Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world•Corporations are saving the planet!
519·5 months agoSo trash in nature is ok as long as you don’t see it?
Anyways, it seems you are far more intelligent and knowledgeable than me, so it probably doesn’t make sense to debate you since I will lose either way…
crt0o@discuss.tchncs.deOPto
Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world•Corporations are saving the planet!
621·5 months agoWhat do you think happens to bottles after you throw them in the trash? They get shipped off to some landfill where they’re buried and forgotten about, that’s just littering with extra steps.
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Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world•Corporations are saving the planet!
526·5 months agoI know it’s supposed to help with recycling, the issue is that it fails to address the core of the problem. Instead of actually doing something about plastic waste, they change the bottle design a little, someone probably makes a shitload of money off that, and everyone is happy, but in reality nothing of substance has actually been done. They offer us these pathetic compromises and we are stupid enough to be satisfied with them.



In my opinion, the main purpose behind law and punishment is deterrence from immoral actions. Punishment for its own sake is in no way good, it’s a necessary evil to deter immoral people from committing immoral actions. If there were no immoral people, there would be no one to deter and thus no use for law.
Sure, internal morality can get twisted, but only when it’s based in instinct (self preservation, subordination to authority, etc.), and that’s what I mean when I say pseudo-morality. Rational moral principles, on the other hand, are relatively reliable, clear and consistent. The main moral frameworks (deontology, consequentialism, virtue ethics) agree on most significant scenarios, the differences are in the specificities.
The scapegoat phenomenon you mention is a great example of instinct (the ingroup-outgroup instinct), being taken advantage of for political manipulation. Education should include teaching people to recognize these instincts and when they’re leading them astray in rational thought.
I think simply achieving material flourishing isn’t enough to make people moral, mainly because there are other instincts at play. For example the desire for status and power. This is what drives people to immorality even during material satisfaction. I also believe it is the main driving force behind capitalism.