A buddhist vegan goth with questionable humour.

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Cake day: June 19th, 2023
  • Gloomy@mander.xyztoLemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world•Standardization rule
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    5 days ago

    The reason why this is sensible can be found, for example, in the works of Oscar Wilde. In “Teleny” one can find the following description.

    Be warned: NSFL (Pornograpic and gory):

    Oscar Wilde, Teleny

    Another person had taken the bottle, and had rubbed it over with the grease of a páté de foie gras, then he began to press it in. At first it did not seem to be able to enter; but the Spahi, stretching the edges with his fingers, and the operator turning and manipulating the bottle and pressing it slowly and steadily, it at last began to slide in. “Aie, aie!” said the Spahi, biting his lips; “it is a tight fit, but it’s in at last.” “Am I hurting you?” “It did pain a little, but now it’s all over,” and he began to groan with pleasure. All the wrinkles and swellings had disappeared, and the flesh of the edges was now clasping the bottle tightly. The Spahi’s face expressed a mixture of acute pain and intense lechery; all the nerves of his body seemed stretched and quivering, as if under the action of a strong battery; his eyes were half closed, and the pupils had almost disappeared, his clenched teeth were gnashed, as the bottle was, every now and then, thrust a little further in. His phallus, which had been limp and lifeless when he had felt nothing but pain, was again acquiring its full proportions; then all the veins in it began to swell, the nerves to stiffen themselves to their utmost. “Do you want to be kissed?” asked someone, seeing how the rod was shaking. “Thanks,” said he, “I feel enough as it is.” “What is it like?” “A sharp and yet an agreeable irritation from my bum up to my brain.” "In fact his whole body was convulsed, as the bottle went slowly in and out, ripping and almost quartering him. All at once the penis was mightily shaken, then it became turgidly rigid, the tiny lips opened them- selves, a sparkling drop of colourless liquid appeared on their edges. “Quicker further in-let me feel-let me feel!” 'Thereupon he began to cry, to laugh hysterically; then to neigh like a stallion at the sight of a mare. The phallus squirted out a few drops of thick, white, viscid sperm. “Thrust it in-thrust it in!” he groaned, with a dying voice. The hand of the manipulator was convulsed. He gave the bottle a strong shake. We were all breathless with excitement, seeing the intense pleasure the Spahi was feeling, when all at once, amidst the perfect silence that followed each of the soldier’s groans, a slight shivering sound was heard, which was at once succeeded by a loud scream of pain and terror from the prostrate man, of horror from the other. The bottle had broken; the handle and part of it came out, cutting all the edges that pressed against it, the other part remained engulfed within the anus.

  • Gloomy@mander.xyztomemes@lemmy.world•Separate Group Chat
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    1 month ago

    […]the killing is done in a humane way. Both of these are ensured by the EU-BIO regulations […]

    There is, to the beat of my knowledge, no difference in the methods of slaughtering for conventional and organic cattle in the EU. They are processed seperatly, but that is the only regulation i know of. Happy to be corrected if you know something else.
    Some organic farm slaughter animals on their own, to ensure a humane death, so there is that i guess.

    Still, this is where our moral framework differs then, as i do see it as unethical to kill any being without need. For me the knowledge that an animal had a good life isn’t enough.

    For one i can’t guarantee that it was a good life: maybe they were mistreated without any control instance realising it. And of course we can’t ask them.

    I wouldn’t apply that standard to humans.If a human child is murdered by somebody i would never say: It’s okay that they were killed, because they were a happy child with a good life. I don’t see why i should change this view just because it’s a non human animal beeing killed.

    Differnt to many other vegans i am fine with you having a different moral position. I still think that i am right, but it is my truth. I have to and can live with different truths that contradict each other co-existing.

    So, no hate from my side. I sincerely thank you for the information you have shared here, i have learned some things and feel that i have a better grasp of the matter at hand, while still feeling validated in my previous position. Thank you.

  • Gloomy@mander.xyztomemes@lemmy.world•Separate Group Chat
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    1 month ago

    Once more, thanks.

    Unfortunatly, this confirms what i suspected. Male cows, at the very least, are a byproduct of organic milk production. So consuming it still is contributing to animals being killed, albeit more indirectly.

    For me, that is the red line i wouldn’t want to cross.

    I don’t see how those male calves live a life in dignity, but i respect that your line is different from mine. Thanks again for giving me a glimpse into the industry, that was very informative.

  • Gloomy@mander.xyztomemes@lemmy.world•Separate Group Chat
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    1 month ago

    I don’t, since locks are inanimate objects that lack the ability to feel and think. Do those qualities apply to cows too?

    I sincerely hope that you think humans should be asked for consent before impregnating them. But you don’t seem to think this applies to cows. What qualitie(s) does a cow lack, that a human animal has, to justify this distinction?

  • Gloomy@mander.xyztomemes@lemmy.world•Separate Group Chat
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    1 month ago

    Hey, thanks for getting back to me. I’d be really interested in a follow up.

    Let me start by stating that i am happy to learn more and don’t ask to get a “got ya” out of you. It’s great to have the possibility to talk to somebody who has real experience in the field (if you don’t mind me further enquiring of course).

    • Cows get pregnant about once per year. When we have an actual bull with the herd, that interval is even shorter because the bull won’t consider milk production at all. He’ll jump on as soon as he smells she’s in heat.

    So cows have one or two calves a year, with a dry period of 60 days, while giving milk for the rest of the year.

    • There’s nothing forceful about artificial insemination and every statement in that direction is extremist bullshit spread by Peta Terrorists and other lowlifes

    I have to disagree here. Dairy farmers are impragnating cows, either via natural or artifical methods, to make a profit selling their milk. Impregnating another sentient being that cannot consent to it, for no other reason than to profit from them, is by definition forceful in my opinion. I’d even say it is forceful regardless of the physical force the act of impragnation requiers.

    • Wild cows also get pregnant every year, yes. They need to produce as much offspring as possible so the herd doesn’t die out and when there’s a bull present and the cow goes into heat, then there’s nothing stopping them.

    That’s good to know. I suppose the herds size would be regulated trough predators. Most cows that exist in America and Europa wouldn’t survive in the wild, because they have been bred into milk or meat producers, but it’s good to know thad beeing pregnant is the norm for cows.

    • Cows on organic farms often live into their teens and are usually only slaughtered when they develop severe health problems. Our oldest one is 16 years old as of last month and you can easily tell that she’s an extremely old lady. Wild cows have a way shorter life expectancy because they get hunted down by predators or die of an infection as soon as they show any kind of weakness or old age.

    I’m really happy to hear this :) Since this reduces profit it really shows a genuine care about your families cows, since doing this while losing money must come out of respect and genuine care. e Is keeping cows alive into their teens or even late teens something only your family does or is it part of the general organic milk industry’s standards?

    • A dignified existence for a cow is the ability to graze on fresh pastures, a roof over the head for bad weather, soft bedding for resting, a reasonablely sized herd for companionship and a painless death when her time has come.
    • Separation of cows and calves is your only argument that has any kind of merit, but honestly most cows take it pretty well. A lot of farmers are actually exploring concepts where mother and calf are kept together, but those usually result in higher maintenance cost and slightly lower milk yield. And customers are just not ready to pay the difference.

    Thanks for being honest about me having a point. Personaly i think not beeing seperated from their children should be part of a dignified existance. Even if you think that they take it well, that can by it’s nature only be an assumption.

    I don’t have time for a deep dive rn, but wikipedia seems to disagree with you (i know, not a great source):

    May i ask what happens with the babys? I mean, you propaly can’t afford to double your heard in size every year, that would run out of steam fast.

    The thing that people like you […]

    People like me? Who are they?

    […]always forget is that most farmers and especially organic farmers care a great deal about their kettles’ wellbeing and some of you would do well to remember that.

    I don’t know about that. I belive and hope that farmers care for their animals, and i can imagine that espeacialy organic farmers indeed do care about their animals. I believe that you see your family as caring about their cows.

    Considering how most of the livestock we have is not held on organic farms but is mass produced cattle on large scale farms that do live under horrendous circumstances, i don’t think that “most” farmers care about their animals as living beings that should be treated with respect. Maybe as an asset that has to be kept healthy enough to produce the desired product, but that often includes the very bare minimum of care (at least outside of organic farms).