• HasturInYellow@lemmy.world
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    55 minutes ago

    My sweet summer child… We missed our chance. The revolution isn’t coming. Or maybe it will happen and then we will die anyways. The climate is fucked. There is no unfucking it. We can fuck it a little less than we currently are every year, but that isn’t going to save us.

    The effects of this will rival the Permian extinction in the near term and in the long term, barring a miraculous turnaround through geological processes after a few thousand years, it will certainly be worse.

    For reference, the Permian extinction wiped out 90% of ALL LIFE. Like 75% of land based life and 95% of all sea life (of which there was considerably more) at the time died out. It was caused by a sudden and severe increase in atmospheric greenhouse gasses over the course of several thousand years. We are outpacing that by orders of magnitude. So we could quite conceivably reach the levels seen during that time and we could do it much faster, giving all life even less time to adapt to the worst catastrophy in the history of life.

    We’re boned, my dude.

  • Random_Character_A@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    Before it goes it will be proceeded be decades of massive corruption, general enshittification of everything, corporate rule and oppression.

    When you are running away from corporate sentry drones, because you were outsite after curfew in hunger games type society, it’s better time to start waiting.

    • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
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      41 minutes ago

      Oooh using gasoline to fight climate change. Literally fighting fire with fire. I like it.

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      2 hours ago

      There are so many people like you wanting the violence, but waiting for someone else to shoulder the risk. Performative rebellion.

  • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com
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    2 hours ago

    Central planning economies have ruined the planet disproportionately compared to their liberal, market economy counterparts. Consider the USSR: compared to the US, a better environmental record might be expected due to their command economy. To the contrary

    Total emissions in the USSR in 1988 were about 79% of the US total. Considering that the Soviet GNP was only some 54% of that of the USA, this means that the Soviet Union generated 1.5 times more pollution than the USA per unit of GNP.

    Their planners considered pollution control

    unnecessary hindrance to economic development and industrialization

    and

    By the 1990s, 40% of Russia’s territory began demonstrating symptoms of significant ecological stress, largely due to a diverse number of environmental issues, including deforestation, energy irresponsibility, pollution, and nuclear waste.

    And this generously glosses over the extent of water contamination, hazardous dumping of toxic & nuclear waste into oceans, etc.

    Humans are the problem, and the planet is better off without them.

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    3 hours ago

    While i too yearn for the downfall of capitalism, pre-capitalist societies were still responsible for environmental distruction, slavery and genocide.

    As long as individuals or a small elite have enough power to enforce their needs over the needs of everyone else, we’ll always have capital-b Badnesses.

    We have to usher in the collapse of perminant heirarchies, whatever form they take.

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      39 minutes ago

      We really need the death of money more than we need the death of capitalism. Because you’re right, even before rampant capitalism, we still weren’t really great to each other.

      What’s amazing to me is I’m perfectly content to live and let live. My neighbors, friends, family, all of us…ain’t got no beef with anybody. Why does this fail so badly when scaled up?

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        There’s a lot of neuroscience showing that social power suppresses empathy in the brain. Status, privilege, wealth, etc. make almost everyone less able to consider the pain of others.

        Most of us can be reasonable with people we know. But the socially powerful are making most of the important higher-scale decisions, and they are neurologically the least capable of making good decisions on behalf of others.

        Or that’s how i see the problem.

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    4 hours ago

    i think you’re going to be waiting a while?

    the last countries that were communist have turned capitalist or at least mixed market

    have any countries actually become communist in the last 50 years?

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      3 hours ago

      You mean those fascist neo-feudal states that existed mostly in North Asia?

      Communist countries are something that can’t exist on the real world.